OpenAI Codex vs Devin Desktop (formerly Windsurf)
Two sides of the AI coding assistants decision: terminal agent and AI-first editor. When each fits, what it costs, who moves from one to the other, and what makers who chose it say.
Devin Desktop (formerly Windsurf)AI-first editorllms.txtAcquired: Now part of Cognition, maker of Devin; windsurf.com redirects to devin.ai. source
Which fits you
- You're comfortable in a terminal and want to hand off whole tasks
Use it whenYou already pay for ChatGPT, or want an open-source CLI backed by OpenAI models.
Trade-offBuilt around OpenAI models, and usage limits depend on your ChatGPT plan.
- You want to see and steer each change inside your editor
Use it whenYou want an AI editor with a free tier and plan to hand some tasks to Devin cloud agents.
Trade-offRecently renamed from Windsurf to Devin Desktop and reshaped around Cognition's agents; paid plans run on quotas, with extra usage at API rates.
At a glance
| Used by | 136 makers' products | 43 makers' products |
|---|---|---|
| Cost at default usagedevelopers 1 seat | $8.00/mo ChatGPT Go | $20/mo Pro |
| Downloads | ★ 126.3k | |
| Pricing | Included with ChatGPT plans (limited on Free; Go $8/month; Plus $20/month; Pro from $100/month; Business $20/user/month; Enterprise custom), extendable with credits; the CLI can also use an API key. · paid from $8/mo | Free tier with a light agent quota; Pro $20/month, Max $200/month; Teams $80/month plus $40 per developer seat; extra usage billed at API rates; custom Enterprise. · paid from $20/mo |
| Free tier | Yes | Yes |
| Open source | Yes | No |
| Incidents, 90 daysfrom its status page | 3+ (1 major) | 13 (9 major) |
What makers say
Makers on using it for AI coding assistants, from Product Hunt and Starter Story interviews, each linked to the source. Products with a page of their own and fuller notes first.
Codex is one of the three harnesses HarnessRouter routes to, and we use it in our own build loop. Its structured output made it one of the cleanest harnesses to normalize against.
Helps us move faster from idea to implementation. Useful for prototyping, debugging, and shipping production-ready changes. A fast, reliable coding partner during development.
Helps us move faster from idea to implementation. Useful for prototyping, debugging, and shipping production-ready changes. A fast, reliable coding partner during development.
Windsurf is amazing. It's our go to code editor and is amazing to use to help us build out new features and fix bugs in our application! Its especially amazing to use with Claude!
Windsurf has been a joy to use. It’s fast, clean, and optimized for modern AI workflows. It helped me iterate quickly and stay in flow during long development sessions.
Windsurf's agentic IDE capabilities were essential for managing complex refactors and deep logic changes. It acted as my co-pilot during the entire 1,800-hour journey.
Loved and watch-outs
Themes that recur in makers' words and Hacker News comments, each linked to what it summarises.
- Takes complete repo-wide tasks, from implementation through tests, debugging and release prep, and verifies them in the same environment. PHPH 2PH 3PH 4
- Particularly strong at backend architecture and tracking down bugs from vague descriptions. PHHN
- Usage limits are generous compared with Claude Code and Cursor. PHPH 2
- The Cascade agent iterates on its own suggestions and applies changes without constant manual approval. PHPH 2PH 3
- Context handling is strong: it tracks recent edits and pulls the right files, helping across large codebases. PHPH 2PH 3
- The editor feels fast, lightweight and clean, keeping developers in flow during long sessions. PHPH 2
